Gilgamesh73 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Mr. Harvey makes his life off of Tolkien criticism. Of course he would say that.

undoproductions (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

'both Rings have a common ancestry and, as ingredients of a mythological setting, have certain symbolic similarities. But it is quite clear that Tolkien's work owes nothing to Der Ring des Nibelungen, and it is impossible to draw comparisons between the two works. The few similarities that there are operate as faint and disparate echoes of one another, coming from a distant and common source' Essay by Famous Writer David Harvey google: ring des Nibelungen lord of the rings, 6th link

nemussa (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

im with stupid ---> undoproductions

undoproductions (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yeah for sure.. and Snow white and the 12 dwarfs This is another suppostion that a Great work of art, is from a child story. Heard it already and it tryed to ruin Pink Floyds best Album, The Dark Side of the moon. There is no connection what so ever. There are many enemies of the Tolkien societies and this what follows when having this kind of enemies.

undoproductions (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Ok then, lets suppose you are right. Middle Earth was made before tolkien. But, Was Iluvatar? Fingolfin? Maehdros? Turgon? Thingol? Gondolin? Angband? Menegroth? Doriath? Valinor? The House of Hurin and the Sad tale of his Children? of Tour? of beren and Luthien? All the battles?? Read Tolkiens work before you see the movies and judge ;) Tolkien published only 3 books on The Lord of the Rings, some 15 more where just on the History of HIS Middle Earth.

Gilgamesh73 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Don't even start me on how much material was stolen from Wizard of Oz. It's in the hundreds. It's the very same story and characters almost.

Gilgamesh73 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Wagner himself refered to Ring des Nibelungen as "The Ring Trilogy." Look it up.

Gilgamesh73 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Look, I don't hate Ron, I'm just trying to inform you of the facts. Middle earth was around at least HUNDREDS of years, perhaps even THOUSANDS of years before Tolkien. It's from Norse myth. And you are wrong about Wagner's Ring Trilogy. He adapted material from the poem, and then Ron took Wagner's adapted material and made it his own. Do your research!

undoproductions (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Lord of the Rings then was the last great story to put an end to the Evil in Middle Earth. A WHOLE World which took him all half of his life and you come telling me that J.R.R Tolkien copied it from Wizard of Oz? Great video there! Keep up! bet that gilgamesh73 was your teacher then :P

undoproductions (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Forget Racism... First of all The Ring of the Nibelungen was not originally Richard Wagners work.. it's a 12th Century poem. Secondly.. Do you know that Tolkien has some 20+ books just on Middle Earth? He did not create The Lord of the Rings, he created Middle Earth first with 1100 years of History in it. He Even wrote two Laguages Quenya Sindarin. Countless Characters and Names, battles and stories about each.